Fun and Discovery: April 16, 2009.
After a grueling tax season, we immediately flew to Puerto Vallarta to participate in MexicoAlive’s http://www.mexicoalive.net/content.php Discovery Weekend. After a thrilling water taxi ride, and a tour of the Malecon, we took a bus ride back to our resort where I learned that I was not the only CPA at the event. During dinner, I brought up the issue of little known complicated international tax law that most Americans are not aware of when purchasing real estate in a restricted zone in Mexico using a required Fideicomiso, or Mexican Residence Trust (MRT), there are IRS reporting requirements that carry stiff fines for nonreporting. All of the guests at the Discovery Weekend were interested in purchasing real estate in a restricted zone in Mexico. However, as I thought, none, even the other CPAs, were aware of the Foreign Trust filing requirements.
I can help: April 21, 2009.
On my flight home from Puerto Vallarta, I realized that there was probably a significant amount of US Taxpayers with MRTs that were inadvertently risking hefty penalties for not filing the required IRS Forms 3520 and 3520-A. As a CPA, with international tax experience at a Big Four CPA Firm, experience as an IRS Revenue Agent, holding two Masters Degrees, one in Accounting and the other in Taxation, I believed that I’d be as good a choice of anyone to spread the word and help people keep their Mexican Residences safe from the IRS.
Research and Discovery: April 22, 2009.
I brushed up on research regarding the required filing and subsequent penalties regarding the failure to timely file Form 3520 and Form 3520-A for a foreign trust. I ran into some controversy on the internet regarding the requirement to file a Form 3520 and Form 3520-A in regards to a MRT.
However, the vast majority of opinions agree that MRTs are bound by Foreign Trust IRS filing requirements. An article from Procopio titled “What Happens In Mexico…Has to Be Reported to the IRS! Mexican Residential Trusts and the Reporting Requirements Under IRC Section 6048” by Enrique Hernandez-Pulido, Esq. http://www.procopio.com/assets/002/5206.pdf The article confirmed that MRT’s are considered to be foreign trusts under IRC Sections 7701(30)(E)(i), (ii) and (31)(B), and under IRC Secion 6048(a)(3)(AQ)(i) and (ii), are required to disclose reportable events to the IRS, and under Treas. Regs. Section 404.6048-1, MRT’s are required to file a complete accounting of all trust activities and operation for the year.
The article continues to argue that the required filings should not be required and state that the California State Bar Tax Section proposed in a paper to the IRS that MRTs should not be required to file Form 3520 and 3520-A. The reporting requirements are complex and time consuming, that are misunderstood by taxpayers, but also misunderstood by (and often unknown to) their US tax advisors.
By the way, the penalty for not filing Form 3520 is 35% of the reportable amount (fair market value of the real estate), plus possible additional penalties. In addition, the penalty for not filing the annual Form 3520-A is 5% of the reportable amount, each year! http://nestmannblog.sovereignsociety.com/2008/09/irs-cracks-down.html
Additional research led to an article by Marianne Kayan, ABA RPTE Section Fellow titled “Is Offshore Evil? Current Legislative Developments.” http://www.abanet.org/rppt/meetings_cle/2008/spring/programmaterial/TEmaterial/te61Kayan.pdf The article referred to proposed expanded penalties in the President’s FY 2009 Budget. Page 72 of the General Explanations of the Administration Fiscal Year 2009 Revenue Proposals released by the Department of the Treasury in February 2008, discusses the need of a minimum $10,000 penalty for failure to file a timely Form 3520. http://www.treas.gov/offices/tax-policy/library/bluebk08.pdf The reason for the proposed minimum penalty is because the IRS obtains information relating to the creation of a foreign trust from third parties, or the IRS discovers funding of a foreign trust from public records. Without the cooperation of those involved with the trust it is difficult for the IRS to determine the amount to assess the 35% penalty against.
According to the Department of the Treasury, the 2010 Budget includes funding for a robust portfolio of IRS international tax compliance initiatives. http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/assets/fy2010_new_era/Department_of_the_Treasury.pdf
This is a little scary, the US’s two most recent budgets propose minimum late/nonfiling penalties for Foreign Trusts and additional IRS enforcement regarding international tax compliance. I begin to wonder if the US Government intends to use the IRS’s complicated international tax reporting requirement to help offset the US’s current financial crisis? My experience and research tells me that most beneficiary’s of MRT’s are unaware of the filing requirements. In addition, my experience as a CPA and IRS Revenue Agent tells me that unless the Tax Advisor specializes in international tax at an expensive Big Four Accounting Firm, most US Tax Advisors are ignorant regarding international tax reporting requirements.
According to an article by Mitch Creekmore, titled “IRS Requires Reporting of Mexican Bank Trusts” written in March of 2008, http://www.stewartmexico.com/download/557/pdf/March-2008-IRS.pdf “The vast majority of U.S. buyers utilizing MRT’s for residential acquisitions according to Mexican foreign investment law are not aware of the IRS reporting requirements”.
An article from US-Mexicantax.blogspots.com titled US Tax Return Filing Requirements for Fideicomisos” dated February 1, 2009, states that “Many US Citizens have said they do not file the form since the IRS could never find out they owned real property in Mexico. http://us-mexicantax.blogspot.com/2009/02/us-tax-return-filing-requirements-for.html Those people are failing to take into consideration the Mexican-US tax treaty which provides for an open exchange of information between the two countries and the fact that when fideicomiso is created it is registered in Mexico with a copy of your U.S. Passport. Starting several years ago your passport is now connected with your social security number.” Additionally, the article states that “An IRS Tax auditor’s job is to collect tax money to finance the government. That usually takes a lot of time and effort and reviewing tedious accounting records. Forms such as the 3520 and 3520A which provide for large penalties if filed late or not at all are an IRS auditor’s dream.”
In addition, an article from Raoul Rodriguez-Walters, CFP titled “The IRS and Your Mexican Trust: Trust? Or Not to Trust? Mexadv_file_15.pdf states that the IRS can find out that you did not file Form 3520 or Form 3520-A just by looking at your Form 1040. This is where you would report your rental income and the sale of your property. In addition, the property would be included if required to file an estate tax return with the IRS. The author poses the question: “Do you trust the IRS with your trust?”
Voluntary Disclosure: April 23, 2009.
I received a daily briefing email from the AICPA with an article from the Journal of Accountancy titled “FBAR Penalties Reduced for Six Months Foreign Reporting Penalties Reduced for Six Months”, written by neil A.J. Sullivan. http://www.journalofaccountancy.com/Web/20091641 The article referred to Form 3520 and an IRS Memo dated March 23rd, 2009. The article stated that taxpayers making voluntary disclosures of offshore noncompliance can avoid …nondisclosure penalty provisions…pertaining to various information, including …Form 3520… Form 3520-A. Well, there’s only five months left now.
A Google search led me to the memos referred to in the article above. offshore-voluntary-disclosure-program.pdf The March 23rd IRS Memo from Linda E. Stiff, Deputy Commissioner for Services and Enforcement written to the Commissioner, Large and Mid-Size Business Division and Commissioner, Small Business/Self-Employed Division, titled “Authorization to Apply Penalty Framework to Voluntary Disclosure Requests Regarding Unreported Offshore Accounts and Entities: states that “Criminal Investigation makes preliminary determination that taxpayers are eligible for voluntary disclosures”. If eligible for voluntary disclosure, agreements to resolve tax liabilities will be made in the following manner:
- Assess all taxes and interest due going back six years…Require the taxpayers to file or amend all returns
- Assess either an accuracy or delinquency penalty on all years (no reasonable cause exception may be applied), and
- In lieu of all other penalties that may apply, including FBAR and information return penalties, assess a penalty equal to 20% of the amount in foreign bank accounts/entities in the year with the highest aggregate account/asset value.
Another March 23, 2009 IRS Memo from Faris R. Fink, Deputy Commissioner, SBSE and Barry B. Shott, Deputy Commissioner, MBSB International written to SBSE Examination Area Directors and LMSB Industry Directors titled “Emphasis on and Proper Development of Offshore Examination Cases, Managerial Review, and Revocation of Last Chance Compliance Initiative” states that offshore cases sent to the field are work of the highest priority, and that foreign-based information should be gathered using tax treaties and tax information exchange agreements. In addition, the memo discusses penalties for failure to file certain information returns, including Form 3520 and Form 3520-A and the steep penalties mentioned earlier.
A statement from the IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman from the article “On Offshore Income” dated March 26th, 2009 warns that “For taxpayers who continue to hide their head in the sand, the situation will only become more dire. They should come forward now under our voluntary disclosure practice and get right with the government.”
I am rather concerned with the statement regarding no reasonable cause exception, the statement regarding 20% penalties on the amount in foreign entities with the highest asset value. For example, if a person purchased a beach front condo in Mexico for $200,000 six years ago, that was worth $400,000 a couple years ago, they are not going to be very happy about paying an $80,000 Form 3520 penalty because their tax advisor was ignorant about international tax reporting. Therefore, I’m beginning to think it’s time to call the IRS.
4/27/09: To quote Forrest Gump, Calling the IRS “is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get”. Knowing this, I called the IRS international question and answer phone line and spoke to an agent that I think that I had dealt with previously, I had had to go over his head and complain to his supervisor. This is the only reason I can think of that he started referring to me as sir, and then switched to ma’am. The agent wanted to refer my question to someone else once I described a Fideicomiso and Form 3520 and Form 3520-A filing requirements. I asked the agent to let me finish the question as I wanted to know how the March 23rd memos regarding voluntary disclosure effected a Fideicomiso. The agent said I’d hear back from the IRS within 15 days.
4/28/09: I decided that the agent I spoke with yesterday may lose my message, I called again and reached a different agent. This agent was able to ascertain and remember my gender while quickly realizing that the international tax matter was over his head. The agent put me on hold and after awhile, gave me the phone number to a International Associate Counsel Group. I called the number and left a message in the general mail box.
4/30/09: I called and left another general message. Then I decided to Google search the phone number to see if I could find a name, as the voicemail system did not offer a directory. Google provided a directory of extensions and I called back and hit the jackpot. The IRS attorney knew what he was talking about!
The attorney explained that the IRS still does not know if a Fideicomiso is a trust or not. Therefore, the IRS will not provide a blanket ruling. The IRS most likely will not make a blanket ruling, as that could lead to abuse. However, the IRS will entertain private letter rulings per individual situation.
The attorney stated that he only saw one automatic penalty, years back. The penalty was for $90,000. The attorney got the penalties abated. However, the attorney said that he did hear about another automatic penalty for about $45,000 recently.
The attorney advises everyone to file Form 3520 and 3520-As, and if penalized they should request a reasonable cause exception. The attorney told me that if any of my clients filed delinquent 3520 or 3520-A, to call him and he’d have the penalties abated.
I asked the attorney if he was aware of the 3/23/09 Memos from Faris Fink & Linda Stiff. The attorney was not, and he was not pleased that he was not made aware of the memos. I told the attorney that one of the memos specifically states “no reasonable cause exception may be applied” to penalties. The attorney suggested that I speak with another IRS attorney to get his take on the matter. In fact, the attorney (Attorney 1), will be calling the other attorney (Attorney 2) to discuss the matter and will then call me back. I should call attorney 1 next week if I don’t hear back from him. Attorney 1 asked me to e-mail the March 234d memos to him. I did.
I called Attorney 2, but his voicemail message stated he was out of the office until May 12th. I left messages for the Attorney 1 on May 8th and May 11th, and the Attorney 2 on May 11th.
I’m beginning to fear that the IRS has “cast a large net” to catch tax evaders using international entities, and that this net could devastate individuals who just wanted a better life by buying property in Mexico.
The IRS is no longer playing: May 4, 2009
An article in Forbes.com titled “Curbing Tax Havens”,reports on the President’s plan to reform international tax laws and improve enforcement. http://www.forbes.com/2009/05/04/obama-taxes-jobs-business-washington-full-text.html A few quotes: “This proposal requires foreign financial institutions that have dealings with the United States to sign an agreement with the IRS to become a “Qualified Intermediary” and share as much information about their U.S. customers as U.S. financial institutions do, or else face the presumption that they may be facilitating tax evasion…”
“In addition, the Obama Administration proposes tightening the reporting standards for overseas investments, increasing penalties and imposing negative presumptions on individuals who fail to report foreign accounts, and extending the statute of limitations for enforcement.”
In other words, “You are guilty until proven innocent”.
“As part of the Obama Administration’s budget, the IRS will hire nearly 800 new employees devoted to international enforcement, increasing its ability to crack down on offshore tax avoidance.”
Reaction: May 5, 2009
An Article titled “Living offshore? Tax dodger, evader, unpatriotic and much worse!’ http://primapanama.blogs.com/_panama_residential_devel/2009/05/now-its-just-your-money-they-want-next-it-will-be-you.html?cid=6a00d8341c0f0f53ef01156f7c849f970c is posted by the Sovereign Society. The article discusses the IRS’s wide net saying “Of course there may be a few tax evaders caught in the sweep, but throwing such a wide net is designed to intimidate and bring fear to anyone considering trying to hold on to any money that is needed by the government.” The article quotes the White House “These presumptions will make it easier for the IRS to demand information and pursue cases against international tax evaders.”
Quiet Disclosure: May 12, 2009.
I read an article written by Arden Dale, in the Wall Street Journal, titled “Quiet disclosure Risky on Offshore Accounts”. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124209153444209277.html Before the March 23rd memos, when a tax advisor discovered that a taxpayer was not compliant with international reporting, the rule of thumb was to “quietly disclose”, by either filing amended returns or to just begin filing correctly. The Wall Street Journal article stated that “Now, individuals must flag their accounts to the IRS and go through a formal voluntary disclosure program”.
I did a Google search on Quiet Disclosure and found FAQs on the Voluntary Disclosure Program. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-news/faqs.pdf FAQ #10, states that those who have already made “quiet” disclosures may take advantage of the penalty framework applicable to voluntary disclosure requests regarding unreported offshore accounts and entities. Those taxpayers must send previously submitted documents” to Criminal Investigation by September 23, 2009. Those making “quiet” disclosure should be aware of the risk of being examined and potentially criminally prosecuted for all applicable years.
FAQ #9 is regarding taxpayers that did not report information about Foreign Accounts with a balance greater than $10,000. The FAQ states that “The purpose for the voluntary disclosure practice is to provide a way for taxpayers who did not report taxable income in the pas t to voluntarily come forward and resolve their tax matters. Thus, If you reported and paid tax on all taxable income but dide not file FBARs, do not use the voluntary disclosure process.” The FAQ gives directions for reporting instructions and states “The IRS will not impose a penalty for the failure to file the FBARs”.
This is encouraging. As there would not be any income to report on a MRT unless it was a rental, would the IRS see that MRTs should have the same exception? However, I wonder what will happen if $1.00 of income was missed on the taxpayers tax return due to a difference in rounding when calculating exchange rates. The FAQ states “If you reported and paid tax on ALL taxable income? Also, what would happen if the MRT was rented, and the taxpayer didn’t report the rental income on their tax return?
Less encouraging is FAQ #20. Does the 20% penalty apply to entities? Answer, the 20% penalty applies to entities. The 20% penalty applies to all assets held by foreign entities (e.g., trusts and corporations) for which the taxpayer was required to file information returns, as well as all foreign assets (e.g., financial accounts, tangible assets such as real estate or art…) held or controlled by the taxpayer.
FAQ #17 states that “The IRS has stepped up its enforcement efforts, including the use of John Doe summonses, to identify taxpayers using offshore accounts and entities to avoid tax.”
I called the first attorney at the IRS again, and had the following discussion. First, I informed him that the news of the day was regarding “quiet” disclosure. The attorney stated that ignorance of the law, regarding MRT filing requirements should be a reasonable cause for the waiver of penalties. Unfortunately, the March 23rd memos removal of the reasonable cause exception eliminated any incentive for a person with a MRT who did not know about filing requirements to get into compliance. Most likely, if a person tried quiet disclosure by filing a delinquent Form 3520, the return would be automatically sent to Criminal Investigation, and would not even benefit from Voluntary Disclosure. At that point, any penalties would be difficult to waive.
In addition, unless a tax advisor had the attorney’s very specific experience, education and background, and was basically him, the tax advisor would not be aware of the MRT’s filing requirements. I agreed, but did remind him of my specific background, and that I sent him the March 23rd memos.
The Second Attorney: We had an enjoyable conversation, and he understood the situation. However, no new light was shed on the issue.
New IRS contact: I called the IRS Voluntary disclosure Hotline at (215) 516-4777 and left a specific message regarding reasonable cause exceptions for MRT’s that did not file Form 3520 or Form 3520-A.
Let’s inform: 5/13/2009.
I sent the following e-mail to the journalist that wrote the Wall Street Journal article on quiet disclosure:
Dear Ms. Dale,
Thank you for informing the public that there is now risk involved in “Quiet Disclosure” of offshore accounts and entities in yesterday’s Wall Street Journal article. My conversations with multiple IRS Counsel informed that the use of “quiet disclosure” will most likely cause an individuals return to be flagged and sent to Criminal Investigation. Quiet disclosure will not be considered voluntary disclosure.
The 3/23/2009 memo from Linda E. Stiff, the IRS Deputy Commissioner for Services and Enforcement regarding Authorization to Apply Penalty Framework to Offshore Accounts and Entities states in regard to penalties “no reasonable cause exception may be applied”.
I think that the IRS has thrown out a large net intended to catch tax evaders. Unfortunately, there are many US taxpayers that could get trapped due to our complicated international reporting requirements. Most CPAs and tax professionals are unaware of international tax reporting requirements.
Therefore, it is important the IRS clarify that the voluntary disclosure program intent is to identify tax evaders, and not those with reasonable cause.
If not, I wonder if taxpayers that inadvertently neglected to report foreign accounts or entities are going to be targeted to help fund the treasury.
For example:
A couple cannot afford their desired retirement lifestyle in the US. Therefore, they purchase a retirement home in a restricted area of Mexico. To purchase the home, Mexico requires that the home be placed in a Mexican Residence Trust or Fideicomiso. The US requires that the foreign trust report the transaction on Form 3520 and future transactions annually on Form 3520-A. Unfortunately, few tax professionals are aware of the filing requirements. If the house had a high value in the last 6-years of $400,000, has a mortgage of $220,000 and is currently worth $300,000, the required penalty of 20% of $400,000 or $80,000 forces the couple to choose between the possibilities of criminal prosecution or losing their retirement home.
A person with a foreign securities account with a reinvested dividends program moves to the US. During the last 6-years the account value fluctuated to a high of $500,000 to a current low of $100,000. During the period he/she was not aware that the reinvested dividends should have been reported as taxable income on his/her Form 1040 and that FBAR reporting was required. The new voluntary disclosure program requires a minimum penalty of 20% of the highest balance of $500,000, or $100,000. Therefore, the taxpayer has a choice of being wiped out or possibly facing criminal prosecution.
I spent the past month trying to get to the bottom of the March 23rd IRS Memos. So, again, I thank you for helping to spread the word about quiet disclosure. For reference, I’m a CPA who specialized in Expatriate Taxation at a Big Four Accounting Firm, a prior IRS Revenue Agent, and have Masters Degrees in both Taxation, and Accounting & Financial Management.
I received the following reply:
John,
Wow, thanks for this. I am always looking to advance the story…so keep me posted on where I might go next.
Arden
My response:
Arden,
You are welcome. It’s been an interesting process, to say the least! Regarding the advancement of the story, I’d like to get to the bottom of the IRS’s intent.
The IRS states that the period of voluntary disclosure is to provide an opportunity for taxpayers who evaded taxes using offshore accounts and entities to become compliant, with known penalties.
However, communication from the IRS does not address taxpayers that were ignorant regarding complex, little known, foreign reporting requirements. In fact, IRS communications state that regarding penalties, “no reasonable cause exception may be applied”.
If the IRS does not issue a statement allowing reasonable cause, I am suspicious of motive.
The US Treasury needs money. Will the majority of the taxpayers be sympathetic to the IRS raiding the coffers of US taxpayers with overseas assets that could not afford to have their taxes prepared by a Big Four Accounting Firm CPA?
Return message: 5/14/09:
I missed the call back from the Hotline, the IRS Technical Advisor left a message saying that I can only call him back at the hotline voicemail. He would keep calling until he reached me. Instructions left with reception to give the Technical Advisor my cell phone number, as I am flying out of town, tonight.
Another missed call: 5/15/09:
Reception did not follow my instructions regarding my cell phone. Therefore, another message was left on my voice mail from the Technical Advisor.
Back in town: 5/20/09:
No new messages from the Technical Advisor, I leave another message on the Hotline identifying my previous question and cell phone number. The hotline’s message states that call will be returned within one business day.
Try again, 5/22/09:
I call the hotline, and start from scratch, restating my question and leaving both by business and cell phone numbers.
More reading: 5/24/09.
Looking for answers, I read an article from Jay Krause of Withersworldwide.com, titled “Something to declare: IRS issues guidance for US taxpayers declaring offshore accounts. http://www.withersworldwide.com/news-publications/519/something-to-declare-irs-issues-guidance-us-taxpayers-declaring-offshore-accounts.aspx A paragraph reads: “As part of the new guidance, the penalties associated with failing to meet these additional obligations will not be assessed if the taxpayer fully cooperates with the IRS and otherwise satisfies the voluntary disclosure requirements. The waiver of these penalties may represent a significant savings over the amount that can be assessed if the IRS discovers that such reports have not been filed and the full range of applicable penalties is imposed.” Wondering if Mr. Krause knew something I did not know, I sent him an e-mail asking for his authority.
International response: 5/25/09.
Mr. Krause, answered that the exemption from penalties he was referring to is after the 20% penalty has been assessed. However, Mr. Krause stated that “FWIW, to the best of my knowledge there’s no basis in law for the IRS position applying a 20% penalty on entities.”
Hmmm. Looks like I’ll have to keep trying the IRS Hotline.
I found the following on Google search, today: “AICPA response to May 25, 2007 IRS follow-up oral comments regarding Jan. 31, 2007, AICPA submission to IRS on foreign trust reporting.
http://tax.aicpa.org/NR/rdonlyres/4A148AAA-8B05-4185-940C-D50B9C9C6F79/0/Response_to_5_07_Qs_clean_03_03_08_e.doc
“In May 2007, we had briefly discussed with the IRS the issue as to whether a Mexican trust (Fideicomiso) should be treated as a foreign trust and subject to the section 6048(a), (b) and (c) reporting requirements. Some of our members have been told that the IRS considers these to be “trusts” in all cases, while some of our members are of the opinion that Fideicomisos do not meet the definition of a “trust” in Treasury Regulation section 301.7701-4. In May 2007, the IRS asked that we provide a specific request for guidance that includes an outline of the issue so that it can be forwarded to the appropriate parties. We are working on this and plan to forward this to you separately in the near future. We were also requested by the IRS to possibly include a sanitized document and we are looking into this matter.”
I’ll send the contact an e-mail tomorrow and find out if after two years, there has been any progress.
5/26/09: Contact with AICPA
: Schimmer, Jon P. [mailto:jps@procopio.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:00 AM
To: John Dillinger
Cc: Brodsky, Karen A (US – New York); Sherr, Eileen
Subject: RE: AICPA response to May 25, 2007 IRS follow-up oral comments regarding Jan. 31, 2007, AICPA submission to IRS on foreign trust reporting.
Further to Eileen’s e-mail, it remains the position of the IRS at this point that Fideicomiso arrangements are trusts subject to Section 6048. The IRS informally indicated that in the future, once the “universe” of types of Fideicomisos are better understood by the IRS, they may exempt certain of the more agency type arrangements from the reporting requirements.
Jon P. Schimmer
Partner
Procopio, Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP
530 B Street, Suite 2100
San Diego, CA 92101
direct dial: (619) 525-3805
direct fax: (619) 744-5496
jps@procopio.com
www.procopio.com
Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
From: Sherr, Eileen [mailto:esherr@aicpa.org]
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 7:45 AM
To: ‘John Dillinger’
Cc: ‘Brodsky, Karen A (US – New York)’; Schimmer, Jon P.
Subject: RE: AICPA response to May 25, 2007 IRS follow-up oral comments regarding Jan. 31, 2007, AICPA submission to IRS on foreign trust reporting.
Thanks for your email. We have not heard much more from the IRS on this issue, but we sent them some sanitized documents and it is still on our plate to consider comments to IRS on this.
From: John Dillinger [mailto:jdillinger@napacpa.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:26 AM
To: kbrodsky@deloitte.com
Cc: jeffrey.hoops@ey.com; justin.ransome@gt.com; Sherr, Eileen
Subject: Re: AICPA response to May 25, 2007 IRS follow-up oral comments regarding Jan. 31, 2007, AICPA submission to IRS on foreign trust reporting.
Greetings Karen,
I’ve been researching the effects of the new voluntary disclosure program and the filing requirements of a Fideicomiso.
During my research I read the AICPA response noted in the subject area of this e-mail.
Specifically, I’m inquiring about the status of the following paragraph:
- In May 2007, we had briefly discussed with the IRS the issue as to whether a Mexican trust (Fideicomiso) should be treated as a foreign trust and subject to the section 6048(a), (b) and (c) reporting requirements. Some of our members have been told that the IRS considers these to be “trusts” in all cases, while some of our members are of the opinion that Fideicomisos do not meet the definition of a “trust” in Treasury Regulation section 301.7701-4. In May 2007, the IRS asked that we provide a specific request for guidance that includes an outline of the issue so that it can be forwarded to the appropriate parties. We are working on this and plan to forward this to you separately in the near future. We were also requested by the IRS to possibly include a sanitized document and we are looking into this matter.
Dear Jon,
My internet research led me to many articles written by Procopio on Fideicomisos. Your efforts to educate the public are appreciated.
Have you been able to ascertain how the IRS will be handling delinquent Form 3520’s and Form 3520-A’s under the new Voluntary Disclosure Program effective 3/23/09?
If I take the March 23rd memos and the recent FAQ’s literally, the 20% penalty based on highest 6-year FMV of assets, with no reasonable cause exception for delinquent filing, is very steep.
I had several discussions with IRS International General Counsel responsible for IRC 6048. Unfortunately, the attorney was caught off guard. In fact, he was unaware of the new program, and I had to forward copies of the March 23rd memos to him.
The FAQ’s, dated 5/6/09, state that delinquent FBARs are not subject to the Voluntary Disclosure Program, if all income was reported on the tax return. The reason provided is that “the purpose for the voluntary disclosure practice is to provide a way for taxpayers who did not report taxable income in the past to voluntarily come forward and resolve their tax matters. Thus, if you reported and paid tax on all taxable income but did not file FBARs, do not use the voluntary disclosure process.”
Based on the above logic, the same exception should apply to Fideicomisos and Forms 3520 & 3520-A. I have left several messages with and am playing “phone tag” with the IRS Technical Advisor responsible for the IRS Voluntary Disclosure hotline.
Any insight or authority would be appreciated.
Arguments on why Form 3520 is not required:
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Foreigners acquire irrevocable and absolute ownership rights to
property in Mexico through a 50-year perpetually renewable and
transferable Bank Trust called a Fideicomiso. This Trust is a legal
substitute for deeded (commonly referred to in the U.S. as fee simple)
ownership and is provided specifically for non-nationals to own property
in the formerly restricted zones (border and beach areas.) The Trust
system of ownership is sanctioned by the Mexican government, provided
for under the Mexican Constitution, and secured by the Central Bank of
Mexico; thereby offering powerful protection.
Title is delivered to a Mexican Bank, authorized to act as the
Trustee, designating the foreign buyer as the Beneficiary of the Trust
(you). The Bank acts like an "employee" of the Beneficiary (you) in
transactions involving the property. The Beneficiary (you) retains the
use and control of the property and makes all the investment decisions.
The rights of use and enjoyment, leasing, improving, mortgaging,
selling, inheriting and willing the property is the same as when owned
in fee simple title. It is your Trust and not the property of the
government or the Bank.
A sale becomes registered when it is witnessed and recorded
through a Notorio Publico in Mexicali. From there, title passes to the
designated Bank to be held in the Fideicomiso (Trust). There are
specific Banks authorized by the Mexican government to hold the Real
Estate Fideicomiso. Authorized Banks must pass extreme scrutiny. (Playa
de Oro uses BITAL Bank. You, however, have the right to transfer the
Fideicomiso to any authorized Bank of your choice.)
The Bank reviews all paperwork of the current owner/developer
to ensure that the documents are complete and legal. The Bank will not
issue a developer the right to apply for and form the Fideicomiso on
their lots until they are satisfied with all documents and that the
subdivision process has been completed. A question that often arises -
in the event the holding Bank should ever fail, be bought by an
unauthorized Bank, etc., what happens to the Fideicomiso? Answer - the
Fideicomiso will be transferred to another authorized Bank. The Bank
does not own the Fideicomiso, you do!
This suggests a more general issue. A fideicomiso (fidécommis) isn't -- your
professor of trusts and estates or of legal history would have told you -- a
trust. But never mind that, the IRS uses it as a translation for "trust" in
its Spanish-language publication, and Quebec too uses "fiducie" and
"fidéicommis" for trusts.
The trouble is that the IRS has intentionally not clarified what it means by
"trust". LeBoeuf Lamb, which handled tax and other issues on behalf of
Lloyd's of London for its US investors (and wound up paying up to $50,000
damages each to some of them in a settlement for conflict of interest claims
after the Lloyd's fiasco of the late 1990s), advised them to report their
far-removed and highly-theoretical interest in Lloyd's overseas premium
trust deeds with a paragraph on form 3520-A that disclaimed any obligation
to report but did so "as a protective measure".
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May 27th: I received a call from the IRS Voluntary Disclosure Hotline, and we actually speak. I explain the situation to the agent. The agent was not aware of the situation, but will look into it.
So the AICPA, is still working on it:
http://tax.aicpa.org/NR/rdonlyres/4A148AAA-8B05-4185-940C-D50B9C9C6F79/0/Response_to_5_07_Qs_clean_03_03_08_e.doc
March 3, 2008
Ms. Maura A. Morgan
International Policy Analyst
LMSB, Globalization Strategy and Policy
Internal Revenue Service
5353 Yellowstone Road
Cheyenne, WY 82009
fax: 307-633-0814
maura.morgan@irs.gov
Re: AICPA response to May 25, 2007 IRS follow-up oral comments regarding Jan. 31, 2007, AICPA submission to IRS on foreign trust reporting.
Dear Ms. Morgan:
The American Institute of Certified Public Accountants (AICPA) offers the below comments on foreign trust issues. These comments were developed by the Foreign Trust Task Force and approved by the Trust, Estate, and Gift, Tax Technical Resource Panel and the International Taxation Technical Resource Panel and Tax Executive Committee. We previously commented on foreign trust reporting on January 31, 2007, and on Forms 3520 and 3520-A on June 17, 2003.
The AICPA is the national, professional organization of certified public accountants comprised of approximately 350,000 members. Our members advise clients on federal, state, and international tax matters, and prepare income and other tax returns for millions of Americans. Our members provide services to individuals, not-for-profit organizations, small and medium-sized businesses, as well as America’s largest businesses.
We are writing in response to several issues discussed in your May 25, 2007, follow-up call with the AICPA Foreign Trust Task Force Chair, Karen Brodsky. The AICPA Foreign Trust Task Force would like to share with you the following comments.
- In May 2007, we had briefly discussed with the IRS the issue as to whether a Mexican trust (Fideicomiso) should be treated as a foreign trust and subject to the section 6048(a), (b) and (c) reporting requirements. Some of our members have been told that the IRS considers these to be “trusts” in all cases, while some of our members are of the opinion that Fideicomisos do not meet the definition of a “trust” in Treasury Regulation section 301.7701-4. In May 2007, the IRS asked that we provide a specific request for guidance that includes an outline of the issue so that it can be forwarded to the appropriate parties. We are working on this and plan to forward this to you separately in the near future. We were also requested by the IRS to possibly include a sanitized document and we are looking into this matter.
We thank you for the opportunity to discuss and comment on these matters and welcome the opportunity to discuss our comments further with you or others at the IRS. Please feel free to contact me at 212-773-2858 or jeffrey.hoops@ey.com; Justin P. Ransome, Chair of the AICPA Trust, Estate, and Gift Tax Committee, at 202-521-1520 or justin.ransome@gt.com; Karen A. Brodsky, Chair, AICPA Foreign Trust Task Force, at 212-436-3025 or kbrodsky@deloitte.com; or Eileen R. Sherr, AICPA Technical Manager, at 202-434-9256 or esherr@aicpa.org, to discuss any of the above items or if you require any additional information.
Great, somebody else out there is thinking about this. He thinks that as the IRS’s intent is not to penalize you if reported ALL income, but failed to file an FBAR, the same would be true for an MRT. However, he does mention that the IRS agent may not agree. Again, do you trust the IRS with your trust?
9. I have properly reported all my taxable income but I only recently
learned that I should have been filing FBARs in prior years to report my
personal foreign bank account or to report the fact that I have signature
authority over bank accounts owned by my employer. May I come
forward under the voluntary disclosure practice to correct this?
IRS REPLY: The purpose for the voluntary disclosure practice is to provide a way for taxpayers who did not report taxable income in the past to voluntarily come forward and resolve their tax matters. Thus, If you reported and paid tax on all taxable income but did not file FBARs, do not use the voluntary disclosure process.
For taxpayers who reported and paid tax on all their taxable income for prior years but did not file FBARs, you should file the delinquent FBAR reports according to the instructions and attach a statement explaining why the reports
are filed late. Send copies of the delinquent FBARs, together with copies of tax returns for all relevant years, by September 23, 2009, to the Philadelphia Offshore Identification Unit at:
Internal Revenue Service
11501 Roosevelt Blvd.
South Bldg., Room 2002
Philadelphia, PA 19154
Attn: Charlie Judge, Offshore Unit, DP S-611
The IRS will not impose a penalty for the failure to file the FBARs.
(Emphasis added.)
While the IRS did not directly address the question of whether to use the OVCP where a foreign account or business had no income or incurred losses, it seems clear enough that the OVCP is only concerned with situations where there was a failure to report income and to pay the taxes that would be due on that income.
Although the IRS FAQ on the OVCP states that no penalties will be imposed for a failure to file the FBAR form, taxpayers may encounter a different conclusion on the part of IRS agents who only deal with that form and are not involved in the OVC Program. In addition, there are penalties for a late filing of forms such as the foreign trust form 3520-A and 3520, the foreign corporation form 5471 and 926 and the foreign partnership form 8865.
http://www.vernonjacobs.com/voluntary-compliance.html
5/29/09: Another call back to the Voluntary Disclosure Hotline. Leave a message.